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In another thread someone mentioned that wraithstrike is broken.Could someone please share as to how it adversely effected their game and how you fixed it.I have a player who wants to use it soon and...

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Well, zadoc showed you one way - assume all dragons have it, extrapolate the math from there. Give a giant 4 wizard levels and wonder how that's actually nonassociated (2 CR less) than 4 fighter...

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Quote:Well, zadoc showed you one way - assume all dragons have itI acknowledged monsters can have be an issue... but are we really considering Dragon PCs? I think the DM can manage some restraint with...

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Ah. So the balance of the spell is that the people it would be most effective for will choose to not use it? Like I said, don't worry about it for generic wizards.Worry about it persistent via spell...

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Quote:I think the DM can manage some restraint with his dragons...That's a bit of an indication there, though.If a spell is powerful enough that the DM has to choose not to use it when it would be...

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Quote:Ah. So the balance of the spell is that the people it would be most effective for will choose to not use it? Like I said, don't worry about it for generic wizards.Worry about it persistent via...

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Wraithstrike is broken for PC's for Two Reasons:1) You can make it Persistent. Really. It is eligible. And all attacks being Touch Attacks is totally broken.2) Brilliant (the weapon enchantment) is...

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Quote:Wraithstrike is broken for PC's for Two Reasons:1) You can make it Persistent. Really. It is eligible. And all attacks being Touch Attacks is totally broken.Bam. That's what I was looking for....

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Why not just houserule extended and persistent spell to not apply to 1 round (as opposed to 1 rounde per level) spells? Seems that would solve the problem, and any spell that designers see fit to...

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My biggest beef with wraithstrike is when it's used against constructs, especially Iron Golems. It just doesn't seem right to me that the 'wraith' like qualities should affect them... but this is...

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Don't forget metamagic rods of extend. Even a 3rd level wizard could get 6 rounds of wraithstrike with it, and combat rarely lasts that long. So at the cost of 2 BAB and a few hit points you provide...

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I think they screwed up the editing for wraithstrike. IMHO, it should say either "duration: instantaneous" or "duration: see text" like True Strike, and then describe how it affects the attacks for...

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Let's put 'er this way.Using scrolls and wands isn't going to work because both require a standard action, and wraithstrike is awesome because it's a Swift Action.Now, with a four level dip into...

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Quote:Of course, the reverse of this is very simple. Tell your players to picture the great and wise, mighty dragon sitting on his hoard with his +35 BAB...and Persistent Wraithstrike.At which point...

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Quote:(a) we are going to meet that dragon, what, once?Of course, if the players realize it's a smart tactic, don't you think everyone else will as well? Those high-level chars had to earn their...

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Quote:To which the DM responds: If I TPK you you'll just roll up new characters (after I ban that spell) because you love playing, while if I have to adjust every single freaking encounter because you...

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Quote:At which point you as a DM might be without players.That's precisely the point. You can ban the spell and let the powergamer cry you a river, or you can just kill the whole game. Which is...

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Just like the D@D cold war article...detente and class balance.I like the example of the shifter warshaper/weremaster. That IS a broken class combo. The damage such a character can do is just...

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Quote:I like the example of the shifter warshaper/weremaster. That IS a broken class combo. The damage such a character can do is just sick...at least until they seriously nerfed the weremaster.I...

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Actually, the weretouched master problem was also the unlimited time and uses of the ability, in addition to the insane buffs. Basically you got the lycanthropic template of your choice for free, to...

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